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Oct 27 19:41 UTC

Brazil's Flavio Bolsonaro headed to US, sources say (reuters.com)

49 points|by jumpocelot||43 comments|Read full story on reuters.com

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  1. 1. abirch||context
    I wonder what happens if the Dems win the White House in 2028. Will he be extradited back?
  2. 2. mgiampapa||context
    Why wait, without a passport he would be an Illegal Immigrant. We have enough crooks in the United States, we don't need to import more of them to take those jobs too!
  3. 3. guywithahat||context
    Yeah but he’s actually a refugee fleeing political persecution, not an economic refugee. The US has and continues to support legitimate refugees
  4. 4. jst1fthsdys||context
    Yup, we have supported legitimate refugees since Paperclip.
  5. 5. yaakushi||context
    He also has an Italian passport, so that probably won't be a hindrance.
  6. 6. vkou||context
    His campaign provided him immunity from prosecution, but now that it's over, he is for some reason unwilling to answer for his crimes.
  7. 7. Rooster61||context
    Something something unfair prosecution something something evil supreme court something
  8. 8. marcosdumay||context
    Nobody is even trying to claim that.

    There are many people complaining that the supreme court should have said which of his crimes this is about, but his allies are not even trying to defend him.

  9. 9. mentalgear||context
    Same "I don't want to go to prison" campaign-reason of Trump and Netanyahu. Both have running court trials that would put them in jail if they don't hold political offices.

    BTW: very suspicious downvote activity going on, without real counter-arguments. I guess Netanyahu private-spy-industry bot machinery is again fully deployed at HN to suppress.

  10. 10. hersko||context
    What are his crimes?
  11. 11. vkou||context
    Well, the most recent would be a conspiracy to fuck with public transit on election day, perhaps they could start with that, determine the degree of his culpability and involvement, and then keep going in reverse chronological order. Then they could go after corruption, the usual sort of stuff.

    His dad's doing time for a coup and an attempted assassination, and his brother's been convicted of coercing the judiciary, by getting Trump to punish Brazil for his dad's conviction. It's a perfectly normal sort of family, this stuff could have happened to anyone.

  12. 12. madaxe_again||context
    Well, he'll get a sympathetic reception - Trump has already called the election rigged, and is refusing to recognise Lula.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there are marines and/or mercs on the eixo monumental in November. Trump will need another war/conflict/invasion/occupation, sorry, special military operation, to distract from the midterm losses, and nabbing Maduro played well in Peoria.

  13. 13. vkou||context
    If he wants to start a war with Brazil, do you think he will win the one with Iran, first?
  14. 14. madaxe_again||context
    He doesn't think that far ahead. He'll be like "we'll grab Lula and install our guy", without thinking about what happens the next day.
  15. 15. verdverm||context
    More likely to bring the Iran war back to save Bibi from an election that could see him removed from power. Bibi tried recently, but Trump said no (more likely wait until after US midterms)

    I believe polls have now closed

  16. 16. tialaramex||context
    In Israel? No, polls close at 20:00 UTC, which is almost two hours from now.
  17. 17. Rooster61||context
    > I wouldn't be surprised if there are marines and/or mercs on the eixo monumental in November.

    Unlikely methinks. I think next on Rubio's docket is Cuba. Brazil is a much harder sell dude to the sheer size and population of the country. Not to mention China would have a huge problem with it due to them having as many fingers in Brazilian pies as the US does.

  18. 18. ls_stats||context
    That's not going to happen, Lula has the popular vote. Even remotely comparing him with Maduro is foolish. If US did something, they would be stepping out of the shadows. That would legit cause a political crisis.
  19. 19. mitxela||context
    Has the USA ever shied away from causing a political crisis?
  20. 20. miguelxpn||context
    What a coward.
  21. 21. mentalgear||context
    Seems like the current US admin is the only place authoritarian Fascists trying to avoid punishments for their deeds can still escape to ... Hopefully today another certain is-really PM will be coming in as well ... safe place ... until November.
  22. 22. TremendousJudge||context
    Depends on who you're aligned with; Moscow is an option for many as well.
  23. 23. mentalgear||context
    Guess that's their final destination if Trumpo losses in November and will be forced with the rest of the coward-criminals to face their crimes.

    PS: I hear Thiel has already bought a large estate in Argentina (yeah, where those WW2 war-criminals also escaped to) in case their fascist government wet-dream doesn't come to be.

  24. 24. dudefeliciano||context
    > Depends on who you're aligned with

    Trump or Putin? Is there a difference?

  25. 25. tialaramex||context
    It appears that if you cross Putin you "fall out of a window" whereas the people in his own country Trump doesn't like just get legal annoyance.

    That's not great, and nobody should pretend it is - but I'd rather be imprisoned for what I believe than thrown out of a window.

  26. 26. mentalgear||context
    > Trump doesn't like just get legal annoyance.

    Until now you mean ... the windows are approaching fast. Let's not forget that his henchmen are already killing unarmed civilians in the streets.

  27. 27. cheaprentalyeti||context
    Yeah. Putin and Lula are strong allies. And suddenly the people who spent the last ten years shrieking about TrumPutin have nothing to say about Lula's attempt to push Brazil into the Russian/Chinese/Iranian power bloc.
  28. 28. dudefeliciano||context
    > people who spent the last ten years shrieking about TrumPutin have nothing to say about Lula's attempt to push Brazil into the Russian/Chinese/Iranian power bloc.

    So now you are the one shrieking? Or what is the point of your comment?

    > “I highly doubt that Russia, China, or the United States possess an army as victorious as the army of democracy in this country,” Lula said, thanking the voters.[1]

    These sound like the words of a real strong ally for sure.

    [1]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/10/26/brazil-election-20...

  29. 29. gverrilla||context
    Yesterday he said[0], in free translation: "I never considered leaving the country. I will surrender my passports and defend myself against this outrage, which is a clear attempt to intimidate me."

    A full-on liar.

    0: https://archive.is/d032W#selection-3213.113-3213.279

  30. 30. madaxe_again||context
    "I did not leave the country, for Brazil is always in my heart. I will surrender my passports. One day. After I am finished defending myself against this outrage."

    Slither slither

  31. 31. gverrilla||context
    that's not what he said. unless this reputable source is misquoting, which is not at all common. it's also not implied.
  32. 32. DeepYogurt||context
    Very innocent behavior /s
  33. 33. dudefeliciano||context
    And this man got 48% of the votes. How the hell do these criminals keep fooling so many people? Oh yea, the likes of Meta are doing their bidding. Musk, Zuckerberg & Co. should be charged for meddling in all these elections (Brazil, USA, Germany...)
  34. 34. throwaway473825||context
    As opposed to Trump, who actually won an election after an attempted coup?
  35. 35. nthypes||context
    The most corrupt and coward family in the history of Brazilian politics: Bolsonaro Family
  36. 36. cassianoleal||context
  37. 37. amai||context
    Another criminal immigrant coming the US.
  38. 38. swat535||context
    What else is expected? When the sitting president is a convicted felon? .. Has US ever punished any criminal politicians ?
  39. 39. amai||context
    "A senior Federal Police official said Bolsonaro had not exited the country via any regular migration point."

    Migration rules are for the poor. Rich people immigrate via private jets, which are not controlled in any way.