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Birdwatching rewires the brain and slows cognitive decline (bbc.com)

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  1. 1. haunter||context
    Then you watch The Birds (1963) and you wonder if are we birdwatching or are the birds watching?
  2. 2. NoahZuniga||context
    It's those darn spy pigeons watching back.
  3. 3. gnabgib||context
    > Together, these results suggest convergent structural remodeling and functional tuning in service of expert performance across the lifespan

    Is a long leap from this article's title. Paper:

    https://www.jneurosci.org/content/46/12/e1307252026

  4. 4. defrost||context
    The BBC article is perhaps truer to the paper:

      Erik Wing, who led this research at Baycrest Academy for Research and Education in Toronto, Canada, compared MRI brain scans from bird experts to those of novices while they identified birds. He found that expert brains were wired differently in regions important for functions like attention, visual perception and visual recognition. 
    
    The study only (?) looked at the brains of birdwatchers, the paper extrapolates the study to make assertions about the brains of active subject experts in general.
  5. 5. acadapter||context
    I agree, it would be interesting to see if there are some cognitive advantages associated with the "special interests" personality traits, in general.
  6. 6. aheckler||context
    Nominative determinism strikes again.
  7. 7. jimnotgym||context
    "He found that expert brains were wired differently in regions important for functions like attention, visual perception and visual recognition."

    Can we be sure that happened because of the bird watching, or did they reach expert level because their brain is wired differently?

  8. 8. melvinroest||context
    I knew it! Those 30 and 40 somethings are always up to something. You never see them, never hear them, but here they are slowing their cognitive decline. They are clever little rascals. They're just like the species they're watching.

    But I created a set of amazing binoculars with automatic AI age detection via radar for the small friendly price of 39.49$. Looking for a bird watcher? Get the SilentBirdWatchDectector 3000 and slow your cognitive decline at double the rate.

    Don't watch the birds, watch the bird watchers instead. They may do something interesting.

    (I'll see myself out...)

  9. 9. etcetcetcetceta||context
    look, look! A millenial father observing bird species in an effort to stave off cognitive decline, rarely seen away from his burrow and demanding offspring, we can see from its markings that this one was once a hipster, note the foliage pattern about it's left radiocarpal.
  10. 10. bob778||context
    If you haven’t seen it, Listers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-wAqplQAo) provides a great glimpse into what competitive birdwatching looks like. It’s nothing like casual birdwatching.
  11. 11. albinn||context
    Absolute banger documentary, rewatched it last week with my SO!
  12. 12. dstu||context
    I can’t recommend this documentary enough. The algorithm dropped it onto my YouTube homepage one day and I wasn’t expecting to watch more than a few minutes but I was drawn in immediately.

    I don’t consider myself a birder but I’ve got into nature photography in recent years and it’s such a joy to get out for sunrise or sunset and to come home with a special shot.

  13. 13. onidj||context
    It's so good. Nature documentary made by a pair of endearing dirtbags.
  14. 14. semolino||context
    Great doc. Also recommend the classic Encounters: Twitchers (1996) as a spiritual precursor.
  15. 15. koziserek||context
    nice. Still, competitive birdwatching sounds like competitive meditation :)
  16. 16. dmtroyer||context
    I won't spoil the ending for you, then.
  17. 17. JackMorgan||context
    I watched this is and it's such a great documentary. I really want to take a year now and try to get at least in the top 25% of birders for the year. I was into casual birding before (it's my favorite thing to do when traveling to a new place, just wander around the area and spot local birds). But now I'm loving the idea of these monthly or annual "competitions"
  18. 18. Rapzid||context
    Really great.
  19. 19. Havoc||context
    I guess in some ways its the opposite of doomscrolling - outdoors & requires patience for the dopamine payoff
  20. 20. asphodele||context
    There's the "always on" type of birdwatching as well, that allows you to recognize the birds you see and hear in the course of ordinary life. No patience required, just practising staying aware of peripheral vision and sounds, but equally rewarding when you are lucky enough to have a chance encounter.
  21. 21. tomaytotomato||context
    Just a bit of anecdata (observer bias).

    A lot of, "birdwatchers" I see travelling to remote parts of Scotland and other places in the UK are generally wealthy retirees, with nice kit (Rab clothing, telephoto lenses, VW campervans).

    Cognitive decline is shown to impact disproportionately on less wealthy people. So is there a trend with economic wealth and outdoor hobbies like birdwatching? I'd hazard a yes.

    On a side note, the Merlin bird ID app from Cornell University is great.

  22. 22. flexagoon||context
    > On a side note, the Merlin bird ID app from Cornell University is great.

    Do you know how it compares to iNaturalist? I'm not a birdwatcher, but I have iNat on my phone and sometimes use it to identify birds, and it seems to do a great job.

  23. 23. t_mahmood||context
    I have tried both. Merlin is best for bird watching. It does not ask to upload any data. Just start the recording, it listens and let me know what is the bird is. Done. It only uploads, IF I want it upload.
  24. 24. bluebarbet||context
    A FOSS alternative is WhoBird, available on F-Droid and pretty good.
  25. 25. t_mahmood||context
    I tried that too, but it wasn't very good.
  26. 26. hackersnooze1||context
    iNaturalist/Seek only does photos doesnt it? Merlin can do sounds which is much much more useful for birds.
  27. 27. Myrmornis||context
    No comparison when it comes to sound. Try Merlin's abilities to identify bird sounds if you haven't yet.
  28. 28. eichin||context
    https://www.birds.cornell.edu/home/the-magic-of-merlin/ for background, but I've always been floored by how well "make spectrogram plots and then use image recognition techniques on them" works, it feels like something you'd invent as a technobabble special effect in a scifi movie :-)
  29. 29. Myrmornis||context
    Right! Do you know how well the problem of multiple overlapping vovalizations has been solved? But anywway yes it's fantastic, and really cool that the models (Bird Packs to download on a phone) are becoming available for many more places around the world. I had been wanting to try it on South American birds for years and finally got the chance this year in southeastern Brazil and it was especially amazing in a place where I can place way fewer of the vocalizations.
  30. 30. 2b3a51||context
    > "Her team's findings have prompted German health insurance companies – who, among others, initially funded the research project – to invest in setting up bird feeders and viewing areas in more than 400 nursing homes across Bavaria. "It was so effective, it just economised money," Kals says."

    Perhaps we need to provide opportunities for less well off people to access nature? It might have a positive cost-benefit. And design care homes around gardens? 'forest bathing' is apparently often recommended in Japan based on studies of blood pressure and other physical indicators.

    Munlochy: if you ever saw a geezer wearing an ex-army parka, builders safety boots with Opticron bins it might have been me. I don't get up there often enough to warrant the pricey stuff.

  31. 31. hlynurd||context
    Did they adjust for demographics?
  32. 32. trollbridge||context
    Yes. The study was from a uniform sample of people and then they installed bird feeders.
  33. 33. dan-robertson||context
    You have quite a biased sample because most people are not going to suffer going to remote parts of Scotland to look for birds, so you are only seeing the more devoted birdwatchers.

    Birdwatching can still be enjoyed in most places without needing to travel far. Birds are less active in bad weather so you don’t need expensive outdoor gear, and in many places there will be freely accessible nature reserves with hides in which one can sit in shelter to watch birds.

    The highest quality glass is going to get pretty expensive (camera lenses can get to the region of $20k; binoculars $4k or so) but there are also much cheaper options and often these can be quite reasonable: you don’t need to take photos of birds; a superzoom point-and-shoot can work great; more expensive binoculars make a bigger difference in low light and if you’re young (older people’s pupils won’t dilate as much so bigger objectives at a lower magnification won’t be a huge help).

    I feel like mostly you’re observing that rich people spend lots of money on their hobbies and not that opening your eyes to look at birds is some expensive exclusionary activity.

  34. 34. 72deluxe||context
    Even better, older Nikon DSLRs are now cheap with many F-mount lenses being incredibly cheap versus buying new mirrorless gear and lenses.

    M43 systems are also excellent for bird watching given the 2x crop factor, and diminutive size of lenses verses larger sensors. Older M43 camera bodies are incredibly cheap versus new equipment. M43 combined with modern LLM-based denoisers means that even low-light photos with higher ISO really can end up looking incredibly good.

    No need to go far or spend a lot of money.

  35. 35. arethuza||context
    I have a Nikon P1000 while it doesn't have the best image quality does make up for it in having a truly remarkable zoom: 24-3000mm. Just the thing for taking pictures of birds and then working out what they actually are at my leisure.
  36. 36. eichin||context
    Same - it gets the ludicrous reach by having a small sensor (and OK but not miraculous lenses) but it turns out that most birdwatching is done in bright sunlight, which makes up for the optical limitations. (I also find it's easier to look for birds naked-eye first - even with mild corrective lenses, vastly more field of view and more effective motion-detecting reflexes - rather than trying to scan with the tiny field of view of the camera. But part of that was noticing the feeling of "levelling up" when I first started bird watching specifically :-)
  37. 37. macintux||context
    Goodwill’s online auction site, shopgoodwill.com, has opened my eyes to how much people appreciate Nikon gear. Nikon pro film cameras sell for stupid amounts of money.
  38. 38. cloudbonsai||context
    For what it’s worth, this article cites a longitudinal study done by German researchers.

    They basically installed a bunch of bird feeders outside nursing homes to see if watching birds improves the health of the elderly people. The researchers concluded that it did:

        Nursing home staff were the first to see the difference the birds made. "For weeks, they haven't seen a smile on [a resident's] face, and then they see the smile," Kals says.
        Some of the memory and concentration improvements are evident after just three to four weeks, Kals says.
    
    It seems that they used the following bird feeder in their study:

    https://www.lbv.de/umweltbildung/fuer-seniorenheime/ausstatt...

  39. 39. nicbou||context
    That sounds a bit like "enrichment" for pets. We all go a little nutso without it.

    My apartment has a great view on nature. I see the sunrises and the sunsets, swallows racing across the evening sky, a chestnut's whole cycle, and all that lives in my balcony garden.

    I cannot overstate how much it does for my happiness. I love the morning routine of caring for my garden. I love to watch things grow and seasons change.

    I think our caveman brains need this sort of thing.

  40. 40. 72deluxe||context
    This is also a great app: https://github.com/woheller69/whoBIRD
  41. 41. Myrmornis||context
    I'd really say the opposite - birdwatching cuts across socioeconomic classes surprisingly well in the UK. At least the subarea of bitding which is focused on rare birds.
  42. 42. robotmay||context
    Yeah some people focus too much on the people rocking about with Swarovski spotting scopes. I’ve met teenagers down my local reserve who were spending their school lunch break watching the birds. Bird watching is essentially free, providing that we don’t manage to destroy what little is left of our wildlife in this country and limit it only to reserves. Serviceable binoculars can be had on the cheap too. It’s a very accessible hobby.
  43. 43. Cthulhu_||context
    I'd say a lot of activities like this can be done for cheap or free. Taking an elderly person to the park is free, it just costs time. Binoculars are ubiquitous, and bird books are a dime a dozen in your local charity shop.

    The critical thing is that these people need a hand to get out of the house or do any kind of activity. And I think that's partially behind a lot of ailments that affect the elderly, they don't go out, don't get physically, mentally or sensorily stimulated enough so they atrophy in all those areas. On top of age related conditions like senility, parkinsons, altzheimer's, etc of course.

  44. 44. HelloMcFly||context
    Birdwatching is truly one of the cheapest possible hobbies you can have. Yes, you can make it expensive if you're committed to photographing them and traveling to remote locations to find "life list" birds, but that's not the vast majority of hobbyists.
  45. 45. Myrmornis||context
    Pretty much agree. Binoculars are essential though, unless you really just want to watch geese and herons and things. And for binoculars you do want to spend a few hundred dollars at least if you can. It really transforms things when you can start watching/identifying the small birds.
  46. 46. derwiki||context
    IIRC birding is like a 130bn/year industry in the US
  47. 47. judge2020||context
    Not sure, but this is definitely a thing - the "a single glass of red wine a day is good for you" claim is pretty likely more about how people who can afford daily wine are probably wealthier people with better access to healthcare, not that any amount of daily ethanol intake has a therapeutic effect. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar...
  48. 48. nunez||context
    It is easy to spend serious coin on camping/backcountry, but you don't really need to buy anything to watch birds. Just your eyes and Merlin if you're cool with using your phone or your region's bird guide if you're not. If you want to make a thing of it, then, yeah, get nice binoculars with good lenses.

    Something I learned from I-forget-where: if you hear an interesting bird call, close your eyes, look up and point your nose to the source of the sound. Open your eyes, and, surprise, it's probably a Northern Cardinal, Mockingbird or some kind of thrush! lol

  49. 49. grendelt||context
    I'm into ham radio which, as a hobby, skews to an older demographic. Does just having a stimulating hobby actually slow decline? Most of the fun of ham radio is learning - it never stops, there's always something else to discover. I'd guess that it's the learning, searching, and connections you make that provide the benefits. Unless being in nature is a requirement, but then you have plenty of retirees that go RVing - do they experience the same benefits? I doubt that's as intellectually stimulating as birding or radio. Maybe.
  50. 50. rustyhancock||context
    Yes of course, anything the requires skills you don't otherwise use. In particular continuous learning is very helpful.

    The challenge however is, is it that those who engage in such hobbies have decline slowed. Or are they able to engage in those hobbies due to not declining.

    It's not possible to answer clearly without some randomisation and control which is basically impossible.

    Still, it's reasonable inference that hobbies and work maintain cognitive capabilities.

  51. 51. saimiam||context
    Maybe by comparing the comparative cognitive of twins, one of whom has a hobby and the other doesn’t?
  52. 52. rustyhancock||context
    It'll definitely be a nice data point.

    It seems also just enough to say supporting people to have a hobby if they're at risk of dementia and don't have one is important to meeting their social and health needs.

    I might be being too cynical. I wonder if there is some funding arguments, I.e. if it's for their health and insurer may fund it.

    If it's for their social/cultural and general wellbeing it might be out of their remit somewhat.

  53. 53. bmacho||context
    > > The challenge however is, is it that those who engage in such hobbies have decline slowed. Or are they able to engage in those hobbies due to not declining.

    > Maybe by comparing the comparative cognitive of twins, one of whom has a hobby and the other doesn’t?

    I don't see how that would help in this case?

  54. 54. 7952||context
    I think some hobbies tap into innate abilities more than others. And those tend to show more perceptible and immediate progress and so are more likely to become a regular habit. As a human you already have a facility for recognising things in nature, it is how humans can find food and detect threats. Where as other abilities (like playing a violin) are far less innate.
  55. 55. Cthulhu_||context
    I think going out into nature adds more physical factors (ham radio and video games are both physically pretty passive hobbies) and more sensory input, which gut feeling says are overall better.

    But generally speaking, hobbies are good. That said, I wonder why video games don't seem to be more popular as post-retirement hobbies.

  56. 56. geoffeg||context
    Ham radio does have a lot of outdoor activities. Parks on the Air, Summits on the Air, and to some extent, field day. Some people just operate from their car, others do full day hikes to the spot they setup at.
  57. 57. _whiteCaps_||context
    I do a 5 day trip in the alpine for SOTA every year. Getting to 6+ point summits in BC is tough to do.
  58. 58. mkli555||context
    You can also enjoy ham radio outdoors through SOTA (Summits On The Air). Going on a long hike while carrying 10 kg of radio equipment, setting up your station at the summit, and making contacts with other operators is a physically demanding but incredibly rewarding activity.
  59. 59. iosjunkie||context
    > I wonder why video games don't seem to be more popular as post-retirement hobbies.

    I think it's a generational thing. Video games were fully entrenched as part of culture starting late gen x/early millennial. I expect to see elder gaming being a thing in the years to come.

  60. 60. jamiek88||context
    We’re nearly there a lot of my gaming crew are older then me, some now 60 with no signs of ever stopping playing. Will be interesting if that makes a difference when we are 75+
  61. 61. macintux||context
    Video games that would involve that level of sensory engagement also generally require a level of hand-eye coordination that’s tough to achieve at that age, or at least that’s my completely uneducated guess.

    Also, speaking as someone approaching retirement age, sensory overload isn’t particularly enjoyable.

  62. 62. dyauspitr||context
    For someone that knows nothing about ham radios can you give me a taste for what you mean by requires continuous learning from a naive perspective? It seems like any other radio technology that has not changed in decades.
  63. 63. piokoch||context
    Key finding is:

    "The findings don't prove whether structural brain differences are the cause or effect of birdwatching expertise."

    Not a big surprise that this observation proves exactly nothing as there are thousands of other factors they could not control for (and apparently didn't want).

    "Her team's findings have prompted German health insurance companies – who, among others, initially funded the research project – to invest in setting up bird feeders and viewing areas in more than 400 nursing homes across Bavaria. "

    This is kind of hilarious and I would not believe that if it weren't Germany, a country that intentionally destroyed its nuclear plants capabilities in order to burn Russian gas and emit CO2. Obviously in the name of reducing CO2 emission.

  64. 64. IAmBroom||context
    From birdwatching/neural plasticity to environmentalism/anti-Russian sentiments.

    Wow.

  65. 65. yunruse||context
    This feels if nothing else quite analogous with default mode network, i.e. brain regions which are task-negative (or task-neutral).

    It seems that the literature supports the intuition that to meaningfully relax (i.e. exercise the brain with fewer pressures of time, success or similar, and with a relatively low information bandwidth) is really good for cognitive health. And it's very good to destress, which we can all benefit from!

    So even if there are more cars than birds outside my own window... I'll make sure to spend a few more moments each day by it :)

  66. 66. ourmandave||context
    Does it count if I have a bird feeder with a movement detection camera that saves to the cloud 100's of terrible blurry images I look at once a never?
  67. 67. derwiki||context
    Because it’s always a house finch?
  68. 68. FinnLobsien||context
    I believe that we'll see a lot of "x is good for your brain" news (with X just being any activity that doesn't involve a screen), now that attention spans are so short and everyone feels like their brain isn't the same anymore.

    The same way we got gyms when people realized physical inactivity is super unhealthy.

  69. 69. arethuza||context
    I suspect we'll find out that "programming is good for your brain" as well...

    NB I'm 61 and recently started developing something almost entirely for the mental workout if provides

    Edit: I also wanted to use HTMX so I could become CEO one day

  70. 70. FinnLobsien||context
    That's great! I think anything that's not passively consuming a screen will be known as "good for your brain", the same way that regular food has become known as "health food".

    Eschewing eating ultraprocessed, factory-made food is now seen as a deliberate health choice, even though it used to be the default. I think the same is happening with the brain.

    Reading a book is now seen as some erudite choice. Having a hobby like knitting, birdwatching, etc. will be some kind of "good for your brain" activity. Things that used to be the only option are now "healthy choices".

  71. 71. cowlevel||context
    I think you can just become CEO of HTMX, don't have to actually use it
  72. 72. arethuza||context
    Well, I'm old fashioned about these things...
  73. 73. lelandfe||context
    Engaging with Torment Nexus Less Found to Lower Stress, Increase Life Expectancy
  74. 74. malfist||context
    What if we took the idea of two minutes of hate session from the dystopian 1984 and made it available all the time. Everyone could carry in their pocket their own personal two minutes of hate that they can have any time they want as often as they want. Orwell never dreamed so high
  75. 75. Gravityloss||context
    The Hate Amplifier
  76. 76. Cthulhu_||context
    Twitter? Everyone gets a soapbox to rant on.
  77. 77. void-sky||context
    We all have that already, it's called smartphone sadly.

    It works with whatever political direction you lean on, which stance you have on two or more genders, which religion you love or hate, which gaming platform you prefer, how old you are and many more "divide and conquer"-topics.

    It'll be difficult to replace because it's so effective already...

  78. 78. kurthr||context
    What percentage of people are neither of the simple common XY nor XX chromosomes? It's about as many people as there are with red hair. If you don't include chimerics it's about 0.25-1.7%, if you do include twin chimerics it's 8%, not including mothers micro-chimerism.

    Probably shouldn't be having those Kenyans (Kalenjin) competing in marathons either. Completely unfair advantage.

    All models are wrong, some are useful.

  79. 79. busssard||context
    what?
  80. 80. bethekidyouwant||context
    At first, I thought this was culture war bait and then I read the Wikipedia article and it is.
  81. 81. cowlevel||context
    It is culture war bait
  82. 82. triceratops||context
    > We all have that already, it's called smartphone sadly.

    That's what the person you responded to was saying.

  83. 83. pohl||context
    Might want to take up bird watching: an early indicator of cognitive decline is the loss of an ability to pick up on subtext.
  84. 84. winrid||context
    These Men Married Their Torment Nexus, See How
  85. 85. Lambdanaut||context
    3 wild and wacky facts your doctor doesn't want you to know about your torment nexus
  86. 86. tapland||context
    Stopping and looking at some birds and what they're doing is really relaxing. Be it pigeons, seaguls looking for fries or if lucky a crow or rook.

    The corvids looking back wondering what you're doing and they'll communicate back too.

    I think becoming a person who would stop and do that, or go birdwatch in general, is probably the important part.

  87. 87. jijijijij||context
    Mean sure, but doing just that misses the learning and specific attention part. Going from "bird" to species, learning about morphological, vocal differences is going beyond "being a little more active and interested in your surroundings". It's really engaging every sensory and cognitive system in concert.

    That said, collecting plants or beetles is probably equally beneficial. Geocaching comes to mind too.

    Although, I wonder if looking up may contribute, given old people tend deform and bend forward with age. Could affect blood or lymphatic circulation.

  88. 88. snarf21||context
    I think it is slightly different than that. I think it is more about active brain activity versus passive. Learning how to play Riichi Mahjong (e.g.) would likely show a similar effect. A lot of people push brain puzzles as a tool against dementia, etc. but it is only helpful when learning a new puzzle type. Once you over learn it, our innate pattern matching takes over and you start playing on auto-pilot, it stops "rewiring" your brain. Just sitting on the couch binging streaming or swiping through shorts is likely to atrophy your brain.

    Obviously being out in nature has other mental health benefits. The key thing is to keep learning and stay curious. Drive to some new nearby town on a weekend and learn about its history. Learn a new hobby like full f-stop photography or learn how to bake or cook (learn all four base sauces). Take up board games and explore all the different kinds of experiences they provide today.

  89. 89. throwaway2037||context

        > now that attention spans are so short
    
    Oh please, this is Internet nonsense. Google tells me:

        > Psychologists and neuroscientists find no structural decline in the human brain's ability to focus. Sustained attention limits remain largely unchanged.
  90. 90. WelkinFolk||context
    I and pretty much everyone I know has repeatedly mentioned how difficult of a time they're having reading books, code (software eng. friends), or even watching the first half of a movie without feeling the need to open their phones and scrolling Instagram.
  91. 91. greesil||context
    The parent comment may be a joke, but it's unclear if it is. This makes it possibly the best kind of joke.
  92. 92. moi2388||context
    How many of these people before simply paused the movie to get a snack or converse a bit?
  93. 93. WelkinFolk||context
    I don't think that's the same as having the compulsion to be online and having very little interest in long time-span activities.
  94. 94. lurking_swe||context
    then I suppose you and everyone you know has basically broken their brain with toxic social media. Or similar?

    my spouse and I (30s) had no problem sitting through the new Spider-Man movie without opening up our phones.

  95. 95. WelkinFolk||context
    Yep, I would say social media, especially in us Gen Zs, has made us more cynical and worried about the state of the world, apart from the obvious attention span problems.

    We live in India, so for example, the rise of online (and offline) hatred towards us has definitely had an impact.

  96. 96. pdpi||context
    Funnily enough, my bird watching does in fact involve a screen — the electronic viewfinder on my camera[0].

    Jokes aside, there is a very definite difference in how my brain "feels" when I'm walking around, camera in hand, looking for things to photograph. It's like I'm in a different "cognitive mode", for the lack of a better term. It's not just about being present and in the moment, but about seeing the world around you from a different perspective.

    0. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tnMlazV0g1syoRPLALJ6576YSYQ...

  97. 97. cowlevel||context
    multiple times in the last few months I've done a thing and then a week after having done it, felt like it was something I'd have to be crazy to attempt, even though I did it and it went fine and it wasn't even that wacky. Because you get in a different mindset when you're actually doing something than when you're sitting at home wasting time on RuneScape*

    * probably one of the less bad things you can do on a screen, since it predates the everything-for-attention era

  98. 98. delecti||context
    RuneScape is certainly far from the very worst of the internet, but it's still wise to be wary of Skinner boxes. Of course I don't follow that advice either.
  99. 99. cowlevel||context
    It's a video game, so it's a skinner box by definition, but at least it's one designed for actual enjoyment more than for revenue.
  100. 100. dominotw||context
    > with X just being any activity that doesn't involve a screen

    and done by top 1 percent of the world

  101. 101. Valakas_||context
    "Doing X is good for your brain/health."

    Where 'X' is almost anything that humans evolved to do in hunter gatherer nomadic tribal groups.

    In other news, sky is blue.

  102. 102. speedping||context
    That explains why Raymond Holt was so sharp
  103. 103. andy_ppp||context
    More likely socialising and long walks in nature slows cognitive decline - how do you control for this from the results to make the birdwatching part relevant?
  104. 104. Rodmine||context
    You have to be a total imbecile to think that we are capable of collecting enough data to make such conclusions.
  105. 105. kokkis||context
    Sounds to me that nature (and the animals) is the thing that slows cognitive decline and so on and so forth. Not birdwatching per se. (I didn't read the article, but having studied psychology, I am assuming with confidence that there is a confounding factor that makes it look like birdwatching is the _thing_ that slows cognitive decline.)
  106. 106. fwip||context
    You might want to read it, then.
  107. 107. IHLayman||context
    Does playing Wingspan count?
  108. 108. shadowtree||context
    By that logic, video/computer games should be great for prevention of cognitive decline too.
  109. 109. lukan||context
    In some ways they do, but actually going out into nature, smell different air, get aun on your skin, wind through your hair, see all around and not just a flickering screen and interface with reality with your whole body, not just eyes staring to a square and hands moving mouse and keyboard .. seems even more beneficial in activating the neurological system in the body.
  110. 110. badpun||context
    They probably are, but only if you try new games, new maps, new strategies constantly - anything to get your brain plasticity working. Killing monsters in Diablo for 10 years in a row probably hastens the decline if anything.
  111. 111. nottorp||context
    Anything that forces you to use your brain rewires the brain and slows cognitive decline, i'd think.

    Anything that's not passive "content consumption" perhaps.

  112. 112. smugglerFlynn||context
    This "passive consumption" needs disambiguation, though.

    What separates "I see colorful moving things" [watching birds] from "I see colorful moving things" [social media reels] is not the perceived passiveness but passiveness in the psychological sense.

    Watching birds is active attention: you scan, predict, analyze. You get random, sparse rewards for it. Importantly, birdwatching is mostly nothing happening, which leaves room for your mind to wander - and wandering is the thing that's apparently really good for the brain.[1]

    [1] - Moshe Bar, Mindwandering (2022), Michael Corballis, The Wandering Mind: What the Brain Does When You’re Not Looking (2015) and different related research papers

  113. 113. nottorp||context
    Hmm I don't do bird watching so I'm assuming it's not entirely passive, as in you need to sneak up on the birds to watch them. Even if sneaking is only coming in binoculars range.

    If you sit on a chair on your porch and watch whatever birds happen to come by, it's still bird watching?

  114. 114. smugglerFlynn||context
    The study cited in the article was about people watching birds through a window
  115. 115. onemoresoop||context
    Many hobbies do that for you. It’s important to engage with something that you like and use your brain. Also, part of the equation is to keep on moving. If you take daily walks and engage in a desk bound hobby it’ll likely provide similar benefits discussed here.
  116. 116. fortran77||context
    My cats do a lot of birdwatching. I wonder if it helps them?
  117. 117. HelloUsername||context
    r/ekekek
  118. 118. jackb4040||context
    How do we know this isn't just propaganda to force people to learn about the natural world, go outside, and make new friends?
  119. 119. vrighter||context
    doing anything slows cognitive decline. Using your pbrain is what slows it down. Not the specific thing you're doing. So does knitting, playing an instrument, and a lot of other things.
  120. 120. speckx||context
    While I don't have scientific or medical studies to back this up, I feel the same about people with aquariums or bird feeders who spend time watching them.

    I have always had an aquarium in the house and bird feeders in the backyard. I'll stop and watch them while I eat or just need to disconnect. Better than staring at a screen.

    I feel way better studying the fish in my little microcosm in my 120-gallon freshwater planted tank or looking out into my backyard at the menagerie of birds, chipmunks, and squirrels around the bird feeders.