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Aug 28 18:15 UTC

Verschlimmbesserung: The Word Your Software Updates Need (geekyschmidt.com)

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  1. 1. boxed||context
    We already have a word for it? "Misfeature"

    The opposite is the more interesting word though: hit bug. A bug/mistake/fuckup that turns out to improve the software.

  2. 2. dylan604||context
    They're not bugs, they're undocumented features
  3. 3. looperhacks||context
    A misfeature is specifically a feature that's just bad, while verschlimmbessern can happen with everything that nobody would call a feature (insert something about xkcd 1172). But yeah, it's pretty close
  4. 4. Krasnol||context
    I'd say enshitification is a good enough word.

    Verschlimmbesserung is not widely used these days in Germany.

  5. 5. ahf8Aithaex7Nai||context
    I do think it's part of many people's vocabulary. It's a bit informal. And it's not a word you use every day. But it's definitely a word that gets used when the occasion calls for it, just like the related verb "verschlimmbessern."

    "Enshittification" isn't the same thing. "Verschlimmbesserung" is when you try to fix a loose connection in a power cord and then no electricity flows at all, or when you try to fix a bad haircut with a trimmer and the haircut ends up looking even worse, etc.

  6. 6. juvvel||context
    Of course it is still widely used.
  7. 7. icantevenhold||context
    Define widely used;

    I probably haven’t used it once in the last 15 years and have heard it maybe twice.

    Source: lifelong German speaker

  8. 8. looperhacks||context
    It's certainly used - not in the top 100, but if the situation calls for it, it's not unexpected.

    There's a big difference between enshitification and "Verschlimmbesserung". The latter has the intent of actually improving things, while the first is making things knowingly worse for profit.

  9. 9. levzettelin||context
    Just from looking at the title, I feel that this talking about AI in general...
  10. 10. alhirzel||context
    I would probably abbreviate that to v17g.
  11. 11. dwoldrich||context
    Value is now only _extracted_. Place the acquired good into the press and smash it until all but the faintest essence remains among the mash. The squeezings are bottled and saved to pay for future _extractions_.

    Companies like Valve can continue largely unshittificated because they are private. Once that is no longer the case, all our game rentals will be squozen away from us.

  12. 12. eqvinox||context
    It's actually a verb, "Verschlimmbesserung" is the substantivization.

    Base: verschlimmbessern

    Present conjugation: I verschlimmbesser[e], you verschlimmbesserst, he/she/it verschlimmbessert, we verschlimmbesser[e]n, (plural-)you verschlimmbessert, they verschlimmbesser[e]n

    Past/perfect: verschlimmbessert (e.g. "it got verschlimmbessert")

    Imperative: verschlimmbesser[e] (e.g. "don't verschlimmbesser that!")

    The [e] at the end is leftover from an older form, in the cases where I omitted it it would sound archaic to a German speaker, but in the other cases it's equivalent or may even sound better. It's also regionally different. The archaic versions kinda sound south German (Swabian, Bavarian).

    [ed. made some adjustments]

    P.S.: "Verbesserung" means improvement, "Verschlimmerung" means worsening/aggravation. The combined word is understood quite specifically though, not just as a combination of the two. It's *not* a normal case of German "paste words together", that's for nouns (you can do it with the substantivization, e.g. Donaudampfschiffverschlimmbesserungskapitän = "captain of verschlimmbessern the steam ships on the Donau", which makes little sense of course). It's not identical to enshittification either, the latter (to me at least) implies intention; verschlimmbessern you can (and probably often will) do by accident.

  13. 13. schoen||context
    Cases apply only to nouns; the present and past perfect are called tenses.
  14. 14. eqvinox||context
    (already edited in)
  15. 15. OptionOfT||context
    I usually relate this to people chasing good reviews at work. Maintaining a system and keeping it bug-free doesn't get people promoted.

    Doing something large, inventing a bunch of metrics, and showing that you improve on those metrics does.

  16. 16. arjan_sch||context
    What about "worseprovement"