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Jun 28 20:15 UTC

Ask HN: Is WordPress the best way to create new websites for beginner (news.ycombinator.com)

6 points|by anitroves||20 comments|Read full story on news.ycombinator.com
Just curious if there is any better alternative for those who just knows basics of coding and are learning as they build.

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  1. 1. ceejayoz||context
    No. WordPress is a giant nest of security holes.
  2. 2. anitroves||context
    So what's the alternative
  3. 3. ceejayoz||context
    Depends on the languages you know and the type of sites you're building.
  4. 4. not_your_vase||context
    What's your goal? If you want just a random site, then WP will do the job. If you want to learn web development, then I'd start it with a local http server (apache/nginx/whatever's your poison) and start writing html/css/js by hand, and see how it builds up line by line.
  5. 5. anitroves||context
    That is some good advice but i wanna know proper platform or way like wp
  6. 6. wasting_time||context
    Look for a "static site generator". Bearblog and Hugo are popular ones. Then you can host your site anywhere and don't have to worry about security problems.
  7. 7. kimyuhan||context
    are their security systems better than wp
  8. 8. kaikai||context
    A static site is much less vulnerable to security issues.
  9. 9. al_borland||context
    Bearblog is a service, not a static site generator one can use like Hugo.

    From the Bearblog GitHub:

    > Bear Blog has been built as a platform and not as an individual blog generator. It is more like Substack than Hugo. Due to this it isn't possible to individually self-host a Bear Blog.

    Jekyll would an alternative for Hugo.

  10. 10. wasting_time||context
    Whoops. My mistake for only reading HN headlines and extrapolating. OP, please disregard this recommendation.
  11. 11. dd-sharma||context
    I love using WP for my blog and I've a self-hosted version. In your question "new websites for beginner" indicates that the user is a beginner and wants to build websites. If websites have simple and static content that don't involve any serious stuff (e.g. e-commerce) then WP is probably ok. But for serious work i won't use it.
  12. 12. anitroves||context
    What would be your choice for serious work then
  13. 13. basch||context
    I’d almost say the opposite.

    For a simple website it’s overkill.

    For a serious website there’s not much else that has the extensibility. Woocommerce is nearly unrivaled. There isn’t another ecosystem like it. I would think this community would lean towards the open source leaning products to the shopifys.

  14. 14. chistev||context
    I've never tried learning WordPress, I know they say it makes building stuff easy, but I just enjoy writing code, man. It's fun.
  15. 15. daemonologist||context
    I would definitely not recommend WordPress.

    If you just want a website for cheap: Bearblog, carrd.co, etc.

    if you want all the bells and whistles on a platter: Squarespace, Wix, etc.

    if you want to supply all the HTML/CSS yourself: Github Pages or Cloudflare Pages.

    (Later, if you want to host the above (except the "bells and whistles" tier) yourself: Hetzner, Digital Ocean, etc.)

  16. 16. preg_match||context
    No. Wordpress requires overly complex administration and deployment. There’s just a lot that goes on with Wordpress, and you’d need a VPS to deploy it just by the nature of Wordpress.

    If you’re building a static site - meaning, a site which does not have any forms which require backend functions - you should use a static site generator. If you’re not building a static site, I recommend starting with a static site. It’s just a lot less to keep in your head as a beginner.

    My recommendation is Astro. I like it because it makes it easy and straightforward to create a static site. And, you will also learn JavaScript along the way, without building out a node backend or even anything on the front end.

    But, if you really want to learn, I recommend noting. Yes, nothing. Just HTML files in a folder, a css stylesheet, maybe some JS files, and a web server. For deployment, you don’t need a web server config or a VPS. Just use cloud flare pages, link it up with GitHub, and boom, you have a static site.

    Don’t be intimidated. If you do just HTML, you can learn a lot and you get the nitty gritty. You understand how the site actually functions from start to end.

  17. 17. hstaab||context
    Cloudflare launched some alternative (also compatible iirc) to WP built on Astro this year. I haven’t tried it but might be worth a look.
  18. 18. mmarian||context
  19. 19. TheWiggles||context
    I would recommend looking at static sites for learning the basics of building websites. There are a ton of static site generators in different programming languages. You'll be able to to build as you go and learn how the various parts of a website work together.

    I recommend looking at jamstack.org as they have a long list of options.

    Personally, I enjoy Hugo, a Go based static site generator. Though if you're unsure then try a couple out and see which you like best.

  20. 20. frollogaston||context
    Wordpress is good. People complain about it because it's popular. Or Github pages is also fine if you just want to write and host HTML.